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	<title>Comments on: Getting in on Hot Girl-on-Girl Action</title>
	<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Ruberg</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-90573</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Ruberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-90573</guid>
		<description>Ooh, if you're looking something along similar lines (modern-day Kinsey) read &lt;a href="http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/08/this-week-experimental-fantastic-and-for-real/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Who's Been Sleeping in Your Head&lt;/a&gt;.  It's all about people's fantasies--and how a huge percent of the population has "perverse" or violent ones.  Good stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, if you&#8217;re looking something along similar lines (modern-day Kinsey) read <a href="http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/08/this-week-experimental-fantastic-and-for-real/" rel="nofollow">Who&#8217;s Been Sleeping in Your Head</a>.  It&#8217;s all about people&#8217;s fantasies&#8211;and how a huge percent of the population has &#8220;perverse&#8221; or violent ones.  Good stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Rynna</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-90492</link>
		<dc:creator>Rynna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-90492</guid>
		<description>Well, from a 'Let's have fun' standpoint, sure :)

From a 'This is why people like X or Y' standpoint, not so much. Psychodynamic approaches can be helpful, and do hold some merit, certainly - But suggestions like that of the book in the title are rather far-fetched.

If you really want fun things to giggle at regarding other people, find someone to do a modern day Kinsey study. It's been 50 years or so, we could use another of those to show how deviant everyone really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, from a &#8216;Let&#8217;s have fun&#8217; standpoint, sure :)</p>
<p>From a &#8216;This is why people like X or Y&#8217; standpoint, not so much. Psychodynamic approaches can be helpful, and do hold some merit, certainly - But suggestions like that of the book in the title are rather far-fetched.</p>
<p>If you really want fun things to giggle at regarding other people, find someone to do a modern day Kinsey study. It&#8217;s been 50 years or so, we could use another of those to show how deviant everyone really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Ruberg</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89667</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Ruberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89667</guid>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;And while Freud had some good ideas for his time, psychology today generally tends to not subscribe to the notion that everything we do or think has some secret significance that’s the modern equivalent of penis envy or an Oedipus complex.&lt;/b&gt;

Ah, call me a Freud-lover, but 1) I'd say that's a vast oversimplification, and 2) I think you're right that psychology has moved beyond Freud, however what his work (and work inspired by his work) is useful for now is the analysis of art (like games) and its consumers, rather than serious psychological cases...  Like what we're doing here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>And while Freud had some good ideas for his time, psychology today generally tends to not subscribe to the notion that everything we do or think has some secret significance that’s the modern equivalent of penis envy or an Oedipus complex.</b></p>
<p>Ah, call me a Freud-lover, but 1) I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s a vast oversimplification, and 2) I think you&#8217;re right that psychology has moved beyond Freud, however what his work (and work inspired by his work) is useful for now is the analysis of art (like games) and its consumers, rather than serious psychological cases&#8230;  Like what we&#8217;re doing here!</p>
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		<title>By: Darkpen</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89645</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkpen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89645</guid>
		<description>I think one aspect that no one's touched upon outside of "i like to see hot girls" is the deeper psychological aspects of voyeurism, rather than labeling that as a throwaway comment. 

As for the "speaking with your dick" comment, I touched on that only in that paragraph in the example of when its not the character that you're playing is the sub, but rather, your female opponent, which comes down to a question of power and dominance, and if history is of any indication, the phalus long stands as a symbol of power, whether its piercing the sky, or piercing a body. Of course, if I were to simply speak on "power," and what that sort of sexual mentality entails, and if prison movies mean anything, its not just women who fall prey, so I suppose my stating of misogyny in that single paragraph alone was a misuse of the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one aspect that no one&#8217;s touched upon outside of &#8220;i like to see hot girls&#8221; is the deeper psychological aspects of voyeurism, rather than labeling that as a throwaway comment. </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;speaking with your dick&#8221; comment, I touched on that only in that paragraph in the example of when its not the character that you&#8217;re playing is the sub, but rather, your female opponent, which comes down to a question of power and dominance, and if history is of any indication, the phalus long stands as a symbol of power, whether its piercing the sky, or piercing a body. Of course, if I were to simply speak on &#8220;power,&#8221; and what that sort of sexual mentality entails, and if prison movies mean anything, its not just women who fall prey, so I suppose my stating of misogyny in that single paragraph alone was a misuse of the word.</p>
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		<title>By: Rynna</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89318</link>
		<dc:creator>Rynna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89318</guid>
		<description>Ooh, addendum: I just read the synopsis for the book on Amazon, and can definitely say with some clarity that this guy is just throwing out Freud 2.0 left and right.

And while Freud had some good ideas for his time, psychology today generally tends to not subscribe to the notion that everything we do or think has some secret significance that's the modern equivalent of penis envy or an Oedipus complex.

That's not to say childhood experience doesn't lead to sexual fantasies later in life - However, this 'Fantasy X signifies sexual hostility, while Y signifies wanting to be much buffer and so forth' bit is much more sensationalistic pseudoscience than credible theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, addendum: I just read the synopsis for the book on Amazon, and can definitely say with some clarity that this guy is just throwing out Freud 2.0 left and right.</p>
<p>And while Freud had some good ideas for his time, psychology today generally tends to not subscribe to the notion that everything we do or think has some secret significance that&#8217;s the modern equivalent of penis envy or an Oedipus complex.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say childhood experience doesn&#8217;t lead to sexual fantasies later in life - However, this &#8216;Fantasy X signifies sexual hostility, while Y signifies wanting to be much buffer and so forth&#8217; bit is much more sensationalistic pseudoscience than credible theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Rynna</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89317</link>
		<dc:creator>Rynna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89317</guid>
		<description>From a psychology perspective, the premise may certainly be true in some cases, but given the incidence of actual transgender cases is currently either approximately 1 in 10,000 or 1 in 30,000 for MtF (I know 1 in 30 is either MtF or FtM, and believe it's the former), compared to the number of men who enjoy lesbian porn, you'd have to raise the number of TG types by an exponential factor.

On the other hand, could there be an element of autogynephilia (Aka getting off by fantasizing having sex as a woman?) for these guys? Perhaps, but that doesn't translate into wanting to actually do such - As I'm sure you know, there are tons of fantasies out there that a person wouldn't actually wish to practice, but which are perfectly safe so long as they remain in the realm of imagination.

So, in that sense, while the theory may work in a slim number of cases, I think the traditional one is more apt - Most of all ye guys reading this simply like looking at attractive women. Especially in a game area - I have plenty of friends who play characters that are most attractive too them, not characters who are idealized versions of themselves; unless you're Narcissus, you typically don't fantasize about sex with self!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a psychology perspective, the premise may certainly be true in some cases, but given the incidence of actual transgender cases is currently either approximately 1 in 10,000 or 1 in 30,000 for MtF (I know 1 in 30 is either MtF or FtM, and believe it&#8217;s the former), compared to the number of men who enjoy lesbian porn, you&#8217;d have to raise the number of TG types by an exponential factor.</p>
<p>On the other hand, could there be an element of autogynephilia (Aka getting off by fantasizing having sex as a woman?) for these guys? Perhaps, but that doesn&#8217;t translate into wanting to actually do such - As I&#8217;m sure you know, there are tons of fantasies out there that a person wouldn&#8217;t actually wish to practice, but which are perfectly safe so long as they remain in the realm of imagination.</p>
<p>So, in that sense, while the theory may work in a slim number of cases, I think the traditional one is more apt - Most of all ye guys reading this simply like looking at attractive women. Especially in a game area - I have plenty of friends who play characters that are most attractive too them, not characters who are idealized versions of themselves; unless you&#8217;re Narcissus, you typically don&#8217;t fantasize about sex with self!</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Ruberg</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89100</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Ruberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89100</guid>
		<description>Oh, I'm not saying you're not entitled to have that as your approach/experience, SSJPabs.  It's just rare to hear someone express something like that clearly and honestly :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m not saying you&#8217;re not entitled to have that as your approach/experience, SSJPabs.  It&#8217;s just rare to hear someone express something like that clearly and honestly :).</p>
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		<title>By: Mutant for Hire</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89095</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutant for Hire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89095</guid>
		<description>I fail to see why a heterosexual guy who likes to dominate women would want a male videogame character as his sub.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see why a heterosexual guy who likes to dominate women would want a male videogame character as his sub.</p>
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		<title>By: SSJPabs</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89078</link>
		<dc:creator>SSJPabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-89078</guid>
		<description>BTW, I forgot to change the name tag. MNPundit = SSJPabs. Sorry.

Fair enough, I should have said "personal experience" but I've taken a pretty hard look at my own psycho-sexual proclivities and I am definitely someone who enjoys a more dominant role.... but having it over males it completely uninteresting to me. I suppose the exception would be if--like in that Mountain Dew commercial with the remote--you could turn them into a girl.

Again it's just MY experience, it could absolutely be different for the majority--but due to the outlet I use for the particular power fantasies, I've been analyzing my own desires for some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I forgot to change the name tag. MNPundit = SSJPabs. Sorry.</p>
<p>Fair enough, I should have said &#8220;personal experience&#8221; but I&#8217;ve taken a pretty hard look at my own psycho-sexual proclivities and I am definitely someone who enjoys a more dominant role&#8230;. but having it over males it completely uninteresting to me. I suppose the exception would be if&#8211;like in that Mountain Dew commercial with the remote&#8211;you could turn them into a girl.</p>
<p>Again it&#8217;s just MY experience, it could absolutely be different for the majority&#8211;but due to the outlet I use for the particular power fantasies, I&#8217;ve been analyzing my own desires for some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Ruberg</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-88988</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Ruberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2008/02/27/getting-in-on-hot-girl-on-girl-action/#comment-88988</guid>
		<description>I think I need to look into the specific studies Kahr is talking about, because a few concrete examples would help.  It's easy enough for us to say, "No, I just like looking at hot girls," but I feel like his point was that that's how most people think, but when you psychoanalyze the situation, there's something else lurking.  I suppose it would also be an issue of whether you *prefer* girl-on-girl action: whether in porn or in fighters...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I need to look into the specific studies Kahr is talking about, because a few concrete examples would help.  It&#8217;s easy enough for us to say, &#8220;No, I just like looking at hot girls,&#8221; but I feel like his point was that that&#8217;s how most people think, but when you psychoanalyze the situation, there&#8217;s something else lurking.  I suppose it would also be an issue of whether you *prefer* girl-on-girl action: whether in porn or in fighters&#8230;</p>
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