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	<title>Comments on: Imagine Babyz: Playing Mother</title>
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		<title>By: Mindywith3boys</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-94139</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindywith3boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I don't find anything wrong with little girls wanting to play a  game that encourages nurturing, I think it is terribly sexist that you don't have and option to make the caregiver a boy.  There are boys out there that want to be dads and who love babies and want to play with babies.  My seven-year-old son wanted this game and we got it for him for Easter.  I was shocked that When he entered his name, and started the game, he had no option than to be a girl.  A white girl at that.  Would it have been that much harder to have let them pick their sex, skin color and hair color?  I would rather my son play a nonviolent game like this, but I think it's awful that our society isn't doing everything they can to encourage our sons to grow up and be good dads!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t find anything wrong with little girls wanting to play a  game that encourages nurturing, I think it is terribly sexist that you don&#8217;t have and option to make the caregiver a boy.  There are boys out there that want to be dads and who love babies and want to play with babies.  My seven-year-old son wanted this game and we got it for him for Easter.  I was shocked that When he entered his name, and started the game, he had no option than to be a girl.  A white girl at that.  Would it have been that much harder to have let them pick their sex, skin color and hair color?  I would rather my son play a nonviolent game like this, but I think it&#8217;s awful that our society isn&#8217;t doing everything they can to encourage our sons to grow up and be good dads!</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-81114</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-81114</guid>
		<description>Anyone remember the pocket sized Digital Pets?

One of the first ones that came out in America had you taking care of a little human baby.  If you were successful at it, it grew into a child and you got a second baby to look after.  Succeed there, and after six days, you had a mini-family to call your own.  Variations of these toys are still around in any Target or Toys'R'Us.  They have the babysitting version, too.

This has been done before.  In fact, most of the stuff they're planning for this series has already been done in various forms, especially by the Japanese.  (Though I say that with the realization that the Japanese are not ones to bring up in a discussion of gender equality.)

In all truth, my hard-core gamer girlfriend plays her copies of "Cooking Mama" or "Animal Crossing" as readily as she plays "Soul Caliber III"  or "Fire Emblem".  And I know guys who enjoy the milder care-taking or building type games such as "Harvest Moon" and "The Sims2" over the shoot-em-ups like "Halo".

I don't find anything wrong with making games like this (and only some with marketing them specifically at girls), I think the real problem is a lack of balance.  Not only is there is there no pretty pink &lt;i&gt;Imagine: Corporate Lawyer&lt;/i&gt;, there also isn't a boyish blue version.  Games marketed at boys are as violent as games marketed at girls are full of socially approved gender norms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone remember the pocket sized Digital Pets?</p>
<p>One of the first ones that came out in America had you taking care of a little human baby.  If you were successful at it, it grew into a child and you got a second baby to look after.  Succeed there, and after six days, you had a mini-family to call your own.  Variations of these toys are still around in any Target or Toys&#8217;R'Us.  They have the babysitting version, too.</p>
<p>This has been done before.  In fact, most of the stuff they&#8217;re planning for this series has already been done in various forms, especially by the Japanese.  (Though I say that with the realization that the Japanese are not ones to bring up in a discussion of gender equality.)</p>
<p>In all truth, my hard-core gamer girlfriend plays her copies of &#8220;Cooking Mama&#8221; or &#8220;Animal Crossing&#8221; as readily as she plays &#8220;Soul Caliber III&#8221;  or &#8220;Fire Emblem&#8221;.  And I know guys who enjoy the milder care-taking or building type games such as &#8220;Harvest Moon&#8221; and &#8220;The Sims2&#8243; over the shoot-em-ups like &#8220;Halo&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t find anything wrong with making games like this (and only some with marketing them specifically at girls), I think the real problem is a lack of balance.  Not only is there is there no pretty pink <i>Imagine: Corporate Lawyer</i>, there also isn&#8217;t a boyish blue version.  Games marketed at boys are as violent as games marketed at girls are full of socially approved gender norms.</p>
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		<title>By: Girls read comics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Farewell To Meat</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-75769</link>
		<dc:creator>Girls read comics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Farewell To Meat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-75769</guid>
		<description>[...] the topic of real world little girls, Bonnie&#8217;s Heroine Sheik writes about the appalling sexism of Ubisoft&#8217;s line of &#8220;games for girls&#8221;, but takes a deeper look at the Imagine Babyz game:  Lots of children “play mother” to their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the topic of real world little girls, Bonnie&#8217;s Heroine Sheik writes about the appalling sexism of Ubisoft&#8217;s line of &#8220;games for girls&#8221;, but takes a deeper look at the Imagine Babyz game:  Lots of children “play mother” to their [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: LinkoGRAfia (3) &#171; Altergranie</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-71269</link>
		<dc:creator>LinkoGRAfia (3) &#171; Altergranie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-71269</guid>
		<description>[...] Ruberg pisze na swoim blogu o przeznaczonej dla dziewczynek grze Imagine Babyz, w której opiekować należy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ruberg pisze na swoim blogu o przeznaczonej dla dziewczynek grze Imagine Babyz, w której opiekować należy [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Ruberg</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-71027</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Ruberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-71027</guid>
		<description>Good point, Anne, though less fun than wanting to be the mother of your father's child ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Anne, though less fun than wanting to be the mother of your father&#8217;s child ;).</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Packrat</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-70662</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Packrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-70662</guid>
		<description>Generally I think toddlers like to play mother because they're merely imitating what their own mothers do and they're trying to learn what's proper behavior and what's not.

And if we're hitting all the major traditional "female" professions then where's my Imagine: Call Girl, Ubisoft?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally I think toddlers like to play mother because they&#8217;re merely imitating what their own mothers do and they&#8217;re trying to learn what&#8217;s proper behavior and what&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>And if we&#8217;re hitting all the major traditional &#8220;female&#8221; professions then where&#8217;s my Imagine: Call Girl, Ubisoft?</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Ruberg</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-70219</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Ruberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-70219</guid>
		<description>Ah, but by that logic the target demographic sure seems like another child, not the mother... Well, maybe the whole analogy doesn't 100% work, but I totally agree with you.  Then again, there's a lot of jealousy on the non-demographic end of things as well. "I'm female, I'm not hardcore; why isn't the industry paying attention to &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt;?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but by that logic the target demographic sure seems like another child, not the mother&#8230; Well, maybe the whole analogy doesn&#8217;t 100% work, but I totally agree with you.  Then again, there&#8217;s a lot of jealousy on the non-demographic end of things as well. &#8220;I&#8217;m female, I&#8217;m not hardcore; why isn&#8217;t the industry paying attention to <i>me</i>?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Woodstock</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-70217</link>
		<dc:creator>Woodstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2007/12/10/imagine-babyz-playing-mother/#comment-70217</guid>
		<description>Following your analogy, I guess that would make the current target of the industry's love - i.e. the 18-34 male demographic - the mother.

Which is delicious, really, but also points at something that comes up whenever 'girl games' or even just casual games are discussed: there seems to be a real jealousy among hardcore gamers for the industry's affection. Each time a developer makes a game that doesn't appeal to the hardcore male demographic, they're lambasted for it, and there's a sense of "why aren't they making games for me, dammit?" in the comments.  Not to mention the (sometimes deserved) opprobrium towards existing titles. Barbie Horse Adventures is pretty much a running joke whenever developers gather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following your analogy, I guess that would make the current target of the industry&#8217;s love - i.e. the 18-34 male demographic - the mother.</p>
<p>Which is delicious, really, but also points at something that comes up whenever &#8216;girl games&#8217; or even just casual games are discussed: there seems to be a real jealousy among hardcore gamers for the industry&#8217;s affection. Each time a developer makes a game that doesn&#8217;t appeal to the hardcore male demographic, they&#8217;re lambasted for it, and there&#8217;s a sense of &#8220;why aren&#8217;t they making games for me, dammit?&#8221; in the comments.  Not to mention the (sometimes deserved) opprobrium towards existing titles. Barbie Horse Adventures is pretty much a running joke whenever developers gather.</p>
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