Comments on: Bioshock as Video Game vs. Movie

By: JP Jeunet

JP Jeunet — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:46:51 +0000

Yes, what is the perception of the little sisters about the world around them (harvesting Adam from corpses is just another hobby out there) and how can they adapt to the real world after that and become mothers as it is depicted in the “good” end of the game?…

Beautiful children (Charles Bock, 2008) lost in Las Vegas and at war with everybody else into paranoïd isolation.

Rapture looks so much like New York City and the Chrysler tower architecture. Farther, faster, higher… The Babylon mythos and wrath of gods upon people who tried to become their sibblings?

The game is very much player ego-centric (as highlighted in another post, and by definition for every video game if you don’t want to bore players). Nice for liberty of choice and fast-paced action, but this medium isn’t maybe sufficient to go deeper into the emotions and analysis of such matters?
… Now I can’t wait for the Bioshock movier or (better) book which would put things into perspective! d;D

By: Bonnie Ruberg

Bonnie Ruberg — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:16:39 +0000

Depth, depth–I get it :).

One thing I wonder about the little sisters is what it would be like to play as them. How would the “moral” perspective on them be different if we were playing from *their* perspective?

By: JP Jeunet

JP Jeunet — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:59:47 +0000

Hehe, yeah atfer reading some of your other posts and domains of expertise, I’m sure getting your point about little girls and “big (sugar) daddies”… ;-p
This bioshock game (or should we say “experience” as a whole) has so many “depth” (at the bottom of the sea we couldn’t expect less!) and levels of reading through its onirical poetic message.

By: Bonnie Ruberg

Bonnie Ruberg — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:00:10 +0000

Any element of actual, active “discovery” in games gets the Bonnie thumbs up, especially when it involves creepy little girls :). I totally agree with you, btw, that the game is stunning from its first moments!

By: JP Jeunet

JP Jeunet — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:04:17 +0000

Not much insight, except from what I’ve been reading here on the blog and there…
Bioshock2 will be the prequel about the falling of rapture and confrontation between Ryan and Fontaine!?…
Degeneration of the population (splicers vs others) and genes.

*spoiler*(but who cares now/I was maybe one of the last out there to finish the game!? ;)
The end of Bioshock is great when “discovering” how the little sisters were trained and big daddies created! So much fun and willigness to learn more about all this.
(I really fell in love with this game from the very first seconds of the Demo on 360! Plane crash and fire+water reflections+dark tower.)

By: Bonnie Ruberg

Bonnie Ruberg — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:06:16 +0000

I do hope Bioshock2 will continue to be interesting and unique–by which I mean I hope it won’t just be interesting and unique in the ways the first game were :). Know of any interesting plans?

By: JP Jeunet

JP Jeunet — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:21:52 +0000

Yes that’s right, I just saw the movie Delicatessen in between 2 games of Bioshock and the colors/environments lookded so similar and familiar! (flooded room with old guy eating snails / old devices around the place - “retro-steampunk” technology in both the movie and the game, as in other games Fallout or older Ultima-Travel to Mars.)
And other comments(other post) about Orson Wells/Jules Vernes universes are also true.
Can’t wait for the next game Bioshock2 -
Halo3 per comparison is sooo boring!!!

By: Bonnie Ruberg

Bonnie Ruberg — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:43:09 +0000

That’s a great point about the underground people in Delicatessen. I saw the movie a few months ago, but I hadn’t even thought of that. You can also see how the colors in a Jeunet film are very similar to the aesthetic of Bioshock.

By: JP Jeunet

JP Jeunet — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:48:47 +0000

Well not only the movie “The city of the lost children” but Bioshock universe took also a lot of inspiration from “Delicatessen” (1991) from french film director Jean-Pierre Jeunet. I watched it last week on TV and big daddies are just an evolution of the movie crowling underground deviants…
(Be it conciously or unconciously by game developpers.)

Just finished Bioshock and WHAT A GAME !!! :o) Sooo great, only the end is a bit of a deception and I would have liked more of Rapture and undersea landscapes in a lengthy cinematic.
But that’ll be for Bioschock 0.5-the prequel and making of Rapture!

By: nectarine

nectarine — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:22:39 +0000

Weird.. Even thing I’ve read about it makes me want to play it more then any other game.. ever..