Comments on: Eating as Fighting: Consumption, Penetration, and Kirby http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:14:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-743 Bonnie Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:42:08 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-743 Jokes usually make good points. It's true, Kirby sucks up enemies only to take over their more traditional powers: swords, flames, etc. I suppose it's hard to eat <i>all</i> the time :-). Jokes usually make good points. It’s true, Kirby sucks up enemies only to take over their more traditional powers: swords, flames, etc. I suppose it’s hard to eat all the time :-).

]]> By: Andy Evanko http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-740 Andy Evanko Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:41:17 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-740 I read this article a few days ago and something just dawned on me. If Kirby's like the vagina, would that makes Meta-Knight like the penis? He does attack with a sword...huh. Well, that's more of a joke, but still. :D I read this article a few days ago and something just dawned on me. If Kirby’s like the vagina, would that makes Meta-Knight like the penis? He does attack with a sword…huh.

Well, that’s more of a joke, but still. :D

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-736 Bonnie Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:41:34 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-736 No worries, q, googling was done - well, sort of, more like people googling. I asked a number of sexy friends, and was told, more or less, that it's being attracted to the idea of something eating something else. Seems though that eating, and being attracted to the idea of eating, are somewhat separate issues. Also, the idea of being attracted to being the eater/ate, or watching the eating... again, somehow separate. No worries, q, googling was done - well, sort of, more like people googling. I asked a number of sexy friends, and was told, more or less, that it’s being attracted to the idea of something eating something else. Seems though that eating, and being attracted to the idea of eating, are somewhat separate issues. Also, the idea of being attracted to being the eater/ate, or watching the eating… again, somehow separate.

]]> By: qDot http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-735 qDot Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:30:39 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-735 *shakes his head* When I say something cryptic, it's usually in hopes that you'll google it or at least do some sort of research ( I realize this is not something bloggers usually have to do). Here, lemme get you started. http://www.voraphile.com/vgames/ *shakes his head* When I say something cryptic, it’s usually in hopes that you’ll google it or at least do some sort of research ( I realize this is not something bloggers usually have to do).

Here, lemme get you started.

http://www.voraphile.com/vgames/

]]> By: Brummbar http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-731 Brummbar Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:05:44 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-731 "Brummbar, what if I think Judith Butler is stuffy and old-fashioned? Can I take What's Behind Door #2 instead?" Butler's books actually repel X-rays and UV radiation, so I'd hang on to them. “Brummbar, what if I think Judith Butler is stuffy and old-fashioned? Can I take What's Behind Door #2 instead?”

Butler’s books actually repel X-rays and UV radiation, so I’d hang on to them.

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-727 Bonnie Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:33:31 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-727 Thanks for any and all compliments, guys. I'm always glad to strike up a conversation. Ivan: <i>Hey, extension of the player. Can I take this argument to a ridiculous length and say that "the player playing the game is making a penile stab at the virtual world"? :P</i> I think you could totally say that. Of course, if <i>I</i> said that, I'd be called a dirty man-hating feminist :-). Brummbar, what if I think Judith Butler is stuffy and old-fashioned? Can I take What's Behind Door #2 instead? As for the whole ingestion/no ingestion conversation, I think that there are a number of games where player avatars are ingested by enemies, but that 1) this type of aggression is much rarer than "phallic" aggression, 2) that even this ingestion is usually, as Ivan and MD^2 have mentioned, not a total or graphically accurate consumption, and that 3) when mouth-related attacks do occur (or even just the threat of consumption) it's always on the part of the enemy, usually some manner of monster -- or, in this vein of thought, the demonized "feminine." Also, I think you're right, Ivan, that developers would think it both inappropriate and unsettling for an avatar's, and therefore a player's, selfhood to be dissolved in consumption. At least, when our avatar falls to the ground dead, we have a sense of the definiteness of our in-game bodies. Casey, best of luck coming out of that dinosaur. There was once a Magic School Bus like that. Such things never end well ;-). Thanks for any and all compliments, guys. I’m always glad to strike up a conversation.

Ivan: Hey, extension of the player. Can I take this argument to a ridiculous length and say that "the player playing the game is making a penile stab at the virtual world"? :P I think you could totally say that. Of course, if I said that, I’d be called a dirty man-hating feminist :-).

Brummbar, what if I think Judith Butler is stuffy and old-fashioned? Can I take What’s Behind Door #2 instead?

As for the whole ingestion/no ingestion conversation, I think that there are a number of games where player avatars are ingested by enemies, but that 1) this type of aggression is much rarer than “phallic” aggression, 2) that even this ingestion is usually, as Ivan and MD^2 have mentioned, not a total or graphically accurate consumption, and that 3) when mouth-related attacks do occur (or even just the threat of consumption) it’s always on the part of the enemy, usually some manner of monster — or, in this vein of thought, the demonized “feminine.”

Also, I think you’re right, Ivan, that developers would think it both inappropriate and unsettling for an avatar’s, and therefore a player’s, selfhood to be dissolved in consumption. At least, when our avatar falls to the ground dead, we have a sense of the definiteness of our in-game bodies.

Casey, best of luck coming out of that dinosaur. There was once a Magic School Bus like that. Such things never end well ;-).

]]> By: Ivan http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-724 Ivan Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:52:03 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-724 >Resident Evil (that's the whole point of the game) Haven't played a lot of the other games you mentioned, but I'm sure you're right there. :) I just wanted to make a distinction between biting and chewing - by chewing I mean complete in-mouth chewing. Perhaps my distinction has to do with lips (or in the parlance of the article, labia) rather than teeth. >Resident Evil (that's the whole point of the game)
Haven’t played a lot of the other games you mentioned, but I’m sure you’re right there. :) I just wanted to make a distinction between biting and chewing - by chewing I mean complete in-mouth chewing. Perhaps my distinction has to do with lips (or in the parlance of the article, labia) rather than teeth.

]]> By: Casey Gatti http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-722 Casey Gatti Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:28:46 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-722 I'm playing the new Mario Bros. Superstar Sage on the DS and the entire party gets eaten by a purple dino. The fellow Yoshis have just rolled a large boulder into his gut to open some space for my team to SQUEEZE through. I'm just wondering where we'll exit :P Back to the topic...All I have to say is WOW to your article. It definitely portrays a very interesting analytical breakdown of Kirby's character/control/impression dymanics. I’m playing the new Mario Bros. Superstar Sage on the DS and the entire party gets eaten by a purple dino. The fellow Yoshis have just rolled a large boulder into his gut to open some space for my team to SQUEEZE through. I’m just wondering where we’ll exit :P
Back to the topic…All I have to say is WOW to your article. It definitely portrays a very interesting analytical breakdown of Kirby’s character/control/impression dymanics.

]]> By: MD² http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-721 MD² Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:25:01 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-721 "I've not (IIRC) met a single boss that actually consumed me as a player, and only a very select few that chewed on me." Resident Evil (that's the whole point of the game) ? R-type (Which reminds me, Bonnie you ought youself to play R-type Final on PS2, Last stage B - if I remember well- was made for you; a perfect self-conscious take on the shoot-em up as sexual metaphor)? If you add swallowed to consumed, then: Chrono Trigger, Devil May Cry, Kingdom Heart (yup, the Pinocchio stage), Final Fantasy 6, bean beaten to Yoshi Island... And I'm sure if only I could go and look at my 8 bit back catalogue I could add at least half a dozen more in both categories. Also I think it's quite often that you'll see the avatar getting ingested, but it will more rarely get totaly consumed. Maybe because it implies a stronger sense of death ? “I've not (IIRC) met a single boss that actually consumed me as a player, and only a very select few that chewed on me.”

Resident Evil (that’s the whole point of the game) ? R-type (Which reminds me, Bonnie you ought youself to play R-type Final on PS2, Last stage B - if I remember well- was made for you; a perfect self-conscious take on the shoot-em up as sexual metaphor)? If you add swallowed to consumed, then: Chrono Trigger, Devil May Cry, Kingdom Heart (yup, the Pinocchio stage), Final Fantasy 6, bean beaten to Yoshi Island… And I’m sure if only I could go and look at my 8 bit back catalogue I could add at least half a dozen more in both categories.
Also I think it’s quite often that you’ll see the avatar getting ingested, but it will more rarely get totaly consumed. Maybe because it implies a stronger sense of death ?

]]> By: Brummbar http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-720 Brummbar Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:22:52 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2006/01/02/eating-as-fighting/#comment-720 The first person to compare using the original Atari joystick with male self-gratification wins the collected works of Judith Butler. (Translated into English). The first person to compare using the original Atari joystick with male self-gratification wins the collected works of Judith Butler. (Translated into English).

]]>