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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Ferrous.  I don't mean to imply that wholesomeness and sexiness are diametrically opposed (although, what defines wholesomeness is sort of a hard question), but just the opposite - that the two can co-exist (They may even be intricately linked, but that's probably a discussion better for a fighting day :-)).  It's just that, as you mention, people tend to feel that sexiness, especially with a holiday like Christmas, is somehow "wrong" in the face of holiness.  Why is a whole other question...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Ferrous.  I don&#8217;t mean to imply that wholesomeness and sexiness are diametrically opposed (although, what defines wholesomeness is sort of a hard question), but just the opposite - that the two can co-exist (They may even be intricately linked, but that&#8217;s probably a discussion better for a fighting day :-)).  It&#8217;s just that, as you mention, people tend to feel that sexiness, especially with a holiday like Christmas, is somehow &#8220;wrong&#8221; in the face of holiness.  Why is a whole other question&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FerrousBuller</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator>FerrousBuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-717</guid>
		<description>It's interesting that you seem to suggest that wholesomeness and sexiness are diametrically opposed - if not in your own mind, then at least in the minds of most.  To be sure, one doesn't usually think "family friendly" and "naughty cosplay" in the same sentence.  [Even though I just did.  :-]  Still, as with all things in life, there are gradiations involved: a married couple which indulges in a little "Mr. &#38; Mrs. Claus" sex-play is a far cry from someone who decides to hold a Christmas-themed orgy.  :-)

Sure, for a lot of people, Halloween is an excuse to dress sexy and engage in a little role-play; but for a lot of people, it's also an excuse for kids to dress up and raid the neighborhood for candy.  The fact that some people use it as an excuse to explore the darker side of their libidos - or just to try something different - doesn't rob the holiday of its wholesome meaning for kids in the process.  I don't see a dichotomy or contradiction here: the holiday is what you make of it.  Why should Christmas be any different?  "The Polar Express" and "Bad Santa" can coexist side-by-side at the cineplex fine...just make sure you take your kids to the right one.  ;-)

And a lot just depends on the personal beliefs of each of us.  We live in a country where a major religious figure (Jerry Falwell) attacked a popular children's character (Tinky Winky) for being gay...because he's purple and has a triangle on his head.  Tell me we don't have some effed-up notions of sexuality in this country.   :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that you seem to suggest that wholesomeness and sexiness are diametrically opposed - if not in your own mind, then at least in the minds of most.  To be sure, one doesn&#8217;t usually think &#8220;family friendly&#8221; and &#8220;naughty cosplay&#8221; in the same sentence.  [Even though I just did.  :-]  Still, as with all things in life, there are gradiations involved: a married couple which indulges in a little &#8220;Mr. &amp; Mrs. Claus&#8221; sex-play is a far cry from someone who decides to hold a Christmas-themed orgy.  :-)</p>
<p>Sure, for a lot of people, Halloween is an excuse to dress sexy and engage in a little role-play; but for a lot of people, it&#8217;s also an excuse for kids to dress up and raid the neighborhood for candy.  The fact that some people use it as an excuse to explore the darker side of their libidos - or just to try something different - doesn&#8217;t rob the holiday of its wholesome meaning for kids in the process.  I don&#8217;t see a dichotomy or contradiction here: the holiday is what you make of it.  Why should Christmas be any different?  &#8220;The Polar Express&#8221; and &#8220;Bad Santa&#8221; can coexist side-by-side at the cineplex fine&#8230;just make sure you take your kids to the right one.  ;-)</p>
<p>And a lot just depends on the personal beliefs of each of us.  We live in a country where a major religious figure (Jerry Falwell) attacked a popular children&#8217;s character (Tinky Winky) for being gay&#8230;because he&#8217;s purple and has a triangle on his head.  Tell me we don&#8217;t have some effed-up notions of sexuality in this country.   :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 04:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferrous, you're right, we can, and do, sexualize everything.  But some things we're more willing to admit it about than others.  Christmas is supposed to wholeness and, I don't know, God-ish I guess.  Santa is supposed to a jolly, cuddly father figure.  Of course, Christmas is those things; Santa is those things.  But what we often refuse to address is that those things can also be sexual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferrous, you&#8217;re right, we can, and do, sexualize everything.  But some things we&#8217;re more willing to admit it about than others.  Christmas is supposed to wholeness and, I don&#8217;t know, God-ish I guess.  Santa is supposed to a jolly, cuddly father figure.  Of course, Christmas is those things; Santa is those things.  But what we often refuse to address is that those things can also be sexual.</p>
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		<title>By: FerrousBuller</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>FerrousBuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-712</guid>
		<description>Weren't you the one who had a link to a company selling Mario &#38; Princess Peach costumes for adults?  And I don't necessarily mean for Halloween, though there was likely some trick-or-treatin' goin' on...  *cough*

I don't think there's anything so wholesome or sacrosanct that people can't find a way to sexualize it or turn it into some sort of sex fantasy: from naughty nuns to repressed librarians to fairytale figures to - oh hey! - cute videogame characters.  So how hard is to come up with "Jolly Ole Nick and his naughty elves" fantasies?  Obviously not hard at all... :-)  [One example: "Bad Santa" - talk about a black comedy Christmas movie!]

Oh, and BTW: Happy New Year!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weren&#8217;t you the one who had a link to a company selling Mario &amp; Princess Peach costumes for adults?  And I don&#8217;t necessarily mean for Halloween, though there was likely some trick-or-treatin&#8217; goin&#8217; on&#8230;  *cough*</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything so wholesome or sacrosanct that people can&#8217;t find a way to sexualize it or turn it into some sort of sex fantasy: from naughty nuns to repressed librarians to fairytale figures to - oh hey! - cute videogame characters.  So how hard is to come up with &#8220;Jolly Ole Nick and his naughty elves&#8221; fantasies?  Obviously not hard at all&#8230; :-)  [One example: &#8220;Bad Santa&#8221; - talk about a black comedy Christmas movie!]</p>
<p>Oh, and BTW: Happy New Year!</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-700</guid>
		<description>I totally hear you.  It's like positive and negative space -- complementaries that fit together, that define the outline of each other.  But what a challenge to present that in a movie, which by nature is view in a linear fashion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally hear you.  It&#8217;s like positive and negative space &#8212; complementaries that fit together, that define the outline of each other.  But what a challenge to present that in a movie, which by nature is view in a linear fashion!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dugan</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Dugan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-699</guid>
		<description>That last bit was mine, but I don't mind being equated with Lynch.

I'm a big advocate of games being inherently post-structural. Of course, its hard enough doing structural narratives in interactive form, but I'd like to think something like Mulholland could be a game downt he line. 

The think that gets me about that film and its earlier counterpart "Lost Highway" is that everything seems to happen twice, in the opposite way. Like in the first part of Mulholland theres the box with the weird blue key, in the second part the key signifies mortality. They're really the same thing, but from different sides of the looking glass. 

We go through life and think of what happens as being straight-up, like "yeah, that happened and then that happened yada yada." Not many people consider how things could have happened, the possiblity space instead of the history. We hardly ever think of how something could have happened in an "opposite" way that would siginify the same thing we felt about the original causal chain, but this is whats happening in Lynch's films. When you figure out the feeling the opposite chains of causality are about, which is actually very simple love and jealousy, you can appreciate all the crypticness as being very real and relevant to the characters. 

Its kinda like supersymettry in string theory, like somewhere in the universe the complete opposite thing is happening, it only at a basic quantum level. Yet this opposition is what holds together the whole universe, and maybe the mind even more so. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last bit was mine, but I don&#8217;t mind being equated with Lynch.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big advocate of games being inherently post-structural. Of course, its hard enough doing structural narratives in interactive form, but I&#8217;d like to think something like Mulholland could be a game downt he line. </p>
<p>The think that gets me about that film and its earlier counterpart &#8220;Lost Highway&#8221; is that everything seems to happen twice, in the opposite way. Like in the first part of Mulholland theres the box with the weird blue key, in the second part the key signifies mortality. They&#8217;re really the same thing, but from different sides of the looking glass. </p>
<p>We go through life and think of what happens as being straight-up, like &#8220;yeah, that happened and then that happened yada yada.&#8221; Not many people consider how things could have happened, the possiblity space instead of the history. We hardly ever think of how something could have happened in an &#8220;opposite&#8221; way that would siginify the same thing we felt about the original causal chain, but this is whats happening in Lynch&#8217;s films. When you figure out the feeling the opposite chains of causality are about, which is actually very simple love and jealousy, you can appreciate all the crypticness as being very real and relevant to the characters. </p>
<p>Its kinda like supersymettry in string theory, like somewhere in the universe the complete opposite thing is happening, it only at a basic quantum level. Yet this opposition is what holds together the whole universe, and maybe the mind even more so.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-698</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that last bit yours, Patrick, or part of Lynch's commentary?  Either way, that seems to me to be the core of things - post-structural narrative, post-structural cause/effect, post-structural self.  Of course, however, being linear beings, we can't experience anything wholly post-structurally; we create structure, linear time, or, at best, simulatenous strands of linear time.  But that re-formation of order, however fought, would seem to be itself a form of interactivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that last bit yours, Patrick, or part of Lynch&#8217;s commentary?  Either way, that seems to me to be the core of things - post-structural narrative, post-structural cause/effect, post-structural self.  Of course, however, being linear beings, we can&#8217;t experience anything wholly post-structurally; we create structure, linear time, or, at best, simulatenous strands of linear time.  But that re-formation of order, however fought, would seem to be itself a form of interactivity.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dugan</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Dugan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its funny, I just bought the film on DVD. On the inside flap are "David Lynch's 10 Clues to Unlocking This Thriller"

1. Pay attention to the intro, there are two clues before the credits

2. Notice appearances of the red lampshade

3. What is the name of the film Adam Kesher is auditioning for? Is is mentioned again?

4. An accident is a terrible event, notice the location of the accident.

5. Who gives a key and why?

6. Notice the robe, the ashtray, the coffee cup.

7. What is felt, realized and gathered at the club Silencio?

8. Did talent alone help Camilla?

9. Note the occurences surrounding the man behind Winkies

10. Where is Aunt Ruth?

Consider that your strategy guide, and try to think of the film as a post-structural narrative, or better yet an algorithm for how a self creates itself in idealized form.

The interaction with the film involves playing with that algorithm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its funny, I just bought the film on DVD. On the inside flap are &#8220;David Lynch&#8217;s 10 Clues to Unlocking This Thriller&#8221;</p>
<p>1. Pay attention to the intro, there are two clues before the credits</p>
<p>2. Notice appearances of the red lampshade</p>
<p>3. What is the name of the film Adam Kesher is auditioning for? Is is mentioned again?</p>
<p>4. An accident is a terrible event, notice the location of the accident.</p>
<p>5. Who gives a key and why?</p>
<p>6. Notice the robe, the ashtray, the coffee cup.</p>
<p>7. What is felt, realized and gathered at the club Silencio?</p>
<p>8. Did talent alone help Camilla?</p>
<p>9. Note the occurences surrounding the man behind Winkies</p>
<p>10. Where is Aunt Ruth?</p>
<p>Consider that your strategy guide, and try to think of the film as a post-structural narrative, or better yet an algorithm for how a self creates itself in idealized form.</p>
<p>The interaction with the film involves playing with that algorithm.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so finally I watched Mulholland Drive last night (between Patrick and a RL friend of mine who's been bugging me for years, it was time.), and I'll be the first to admit I'm confused as a hell.  Plus, I can't say it was a wholly enjoyable (in a normal, comfortable way) viewing experience.  Still, I'm intrigued.  I walked away thinking, "Okay, now I've seen it.  Moving on."  But it won't get out of my head.  I'm sure I'll have to read up and watch it again to ever get things straight, but, in the mean time, any words of wisdom? Or anything (Patrick, this if your field.) about how complicated, as you say Brummbar, "confusing" movies involve a level of interactivity as in games in that the viewer has to take an active part in understanding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so finally I watched Mulholland Drive last night (between Patrick and a RL friend of mine who&#8217;s been bugging me for years, it was time.), and I&#8217;ll be the first to admit I&#8217;m confused as a hell.  Plus, I can&#8217;t say it was a wholly enjoyable (in a normal, comfortable way) viewing experience.  Still, I&#8217;m intrigued.  I walked away thinking, &#8220;Okay, now I&#8217;ve seen it.  Moving on.&#8221;  But it won&#8217;t get out of my head.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll have to read up and watch it again to ever get things straight, but, in the mean time, any words of wisdom? Or anything (Patrick, this if your field.) about how complicated, as you say Brummbar, &#8220;confusing&#8221; movies involve a level of interactivity as in games in that the viewer has to take an active part in understanding?</p>
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		<title>By: Brummbar</title>
		<link>http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/28/merry-xxxmas/#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>Brummbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it's appropriate that the movie is from David Lynch because it takes full advantage of the Lynch Effect (wherein people praise a confusing movie because they don't want to seem unhip or admit they don't "get" it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s appropriate that the movie is from David Lynch because it takes full advantage of the Lynch Effect (wherein people praise a confusing movie because they don&#8217;t want to seem unhip or admit they don&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; it).</p>
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