Comments on: “Games of a Fairer Sex” http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:42:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-630 Bonnie Wed, 21 Dec 2005 00:55:50 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-630 An Important Point of Clarification: Earlier in this dialogue, when Patrick brought to my attention the comments that were being made about my article on <i>The Escapist</i>'s blog The Lounge, I said that I did not intend to read them. Though I still wish that, if anyone feels very strongly about a piece of mine, he/she would contact me directly -- as I would be more than happy to start up a constructive email dialogue -- I would like to officially apologize for insulting <i>The Escapist</i> and their readership with this remark, both of whom I have the utmost respect for. In the future, I will be responding to comments posted both here and at The Lounge. Thank you! An Important Point of Clarification:

Earlier in this dialogue, when Patrick brought to my attention the comments that were being made about my article on The Escapist’s blog The Lounge, I said that I did not intend to read them. Though I still wish that, if anyone feels very strongly about a piece of mine, he/she would contact me directly — as I would be more than happy to start up a constructive email dialogue — I would like to officially apologize for insulting The Escapist and their readership with this remark, both of whom I have the utmost respect for. In the future, I will be responding to comments posted both here and at The Lounge. Thank you!

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-627 Bonnie Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:38:12 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-627 Patrick, if you're still curious, I did post my head shot for the X360 column in my Flickr photos... It's huge there though. I promise in the mag it will be of less grotesque proportions :-). Patrick, if you’re still curious, I did post my head shot for the X360 column in my Flickr photos… It’s huge there though. I promise in the mag it will be of less grotesque proportions :-).

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-626 Bonnie Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:55:13 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-626 I definitely hear you on that one, Brummbar :-) -- glad to hear someone else say it. I definitely hear you on that one, Brummbar :-) — glad to hear someone else say it.

]]> By: Brummbar http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-625 Brummbar Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:54:06 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-625 I agree about simplification. I love explanations for human social or reproductive behavior that begin, "When mankind was gathering berries in primeval forests..." or some such thing. Because, of course, nothing has changed since then. My complaint against evo-psych is that it's so reductionist as to be almost useless. You mean people are driven to maximize their own security and comfort while avoiding danger and unhappiness? My god, Professor, you've done it! Chris Crawford is a smart guy and talented - no, GIFTED - designer. He needs to speak through his work though. Enough of this manifesto-slinging, Chris. Make games. I agree about simplification. I love explanations for human social or reproductive behavior that begin, “When mankind was gathering berries in primeval forests…” or some such thing.

Because, of course, nothing has changed since then.

My complaint against evo-psych is that it’s so reductionist as to be almost useless. You mean people are driven to maximize their own security and comfort while avoiding danger and unhappiness? My god, Professor, you’ve done it!

Chris Crawford is a smart guy and talented - no, GIFTED - designer. He needs to speak through his work though. Enough of this manifesto-slinging, Chris. Make games.

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-624 Bonnie Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:59:47 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-624 Hmm, Brummbar, after the STFU comment I'm waiting for a hardcore beatdown from Patrick... No, of course Evo-Psych doesn't stop at the neck, it just gets a whole hell of a lot more complicated. My problem is with simplification. And in my experience, that's what all Evo-Pysch has been. Hmm, Brummbar, after the STFU comment I’m waiting for a hardcore beatdown from Patrick… No, of course Evo-Psych doesn’t stop at the neck, it just gets a whole hell of a lot more complicated. My problem is with simplification. And in my experience, that’s what all Evo-Pysch has been.

]]> By: Brummbar http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-622 Brummbar Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:37:16 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-622 Why does Evo-Psych get such a bad rap? Does human evolution stop at the neck? That said, Crawford's piece was crap. He needs to STFU and get back to making good games, already. Why does Evo-Psych get such a bad rap? Does human evolution stop at the neck?

That said, Crawford’s piece was crap. He needs to STFU and get back to making good games, already.

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-618 Bonnie Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:03:59 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-618 Brinstar and Natalie - thanks for your support. As I mentioned above in response to Patrick's comment, I don't read the Escapist blog comments, and I don't really intend to. First of all, anyone who thinks Crawford's evolutionary psych approach is all that isn't anyone I want to chat with. Second of all, I'm very easy to reach. If I'm not getting emails from these guys (or comments on this site) it just means they don't want to talk constructively, they only want to show off for one another. Brinstar and Natalie - thanks for your support. As I mentioned above in response to Patrick’s comment, I don’t read the Escapist blog comments, and I don’t really intend to. First of all, anyone who thinks Crawford’s evolutionary psych approach is all that isn’t anyone I want to chat with. Second of all, I’m very easy to reach. If I’m not getting emails from these guys (or comments on this site) it just means they don’t want to talk constructively, they only want to show off for one another.

]]> By: Natalie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-617 Natalie Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:00:51 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-617 I definately am right there with Brinstar. I shouldn't even read the comments there, it just eggs me on... What I think frustrates me is that the commentators don't bring their arguments to Bonnie, or talk about their reactions in constructive ways. Also, another frustration is how oftentimes when someone brings up an issue and looks at it through a feminist lens they are told to "do more research" when it's obvious that the commentator is not familiar with scholarly feminism, and could maybe do their own research. By the way, I also really enjoyed the article. I think the fact, also, the fact that it's stirring up controversy on the Escapist site is a good even if a lot of the comments are negative. I definately am right there with Brinstar. I shouldn’t even read the comments there, it just eggs me on…
What I think frustrates me is that the commentators don’t bring their arguments to Bonnie, or talk about their reactions in constructive ways. Also, another frustration is how oftentimes when someone brings up an issue and looks at it through a feminist lens they are told to “do more research” when it’s obvious that the commentator is not familiar with scholarly feminism, and could maybe do their own research.

By the way, I also really enjoyed the article. I think the fact, also, the fact that it’s stirring up controversy on the Escapist site is a good even if a lot of the comments are negative.

]]> By: Brinstar http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-616 Brinstar Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:28:05 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-616 Crikey. Reading the comments on your article in the Escapist Blog, I felt like the only one who enjoyed your recent article. I disagree with Chris Crawford's evolutionary psychology article that was the cause of so much hoopla a little while back, and a couple of commentors there on Escapist appear to think Crawford's article was the bees knees. I guess it's just a difference in viewpoint. Crikey. Reading the comments on your article in the Escapist Blog, I felt like the only one who enjoyed your recent article. I disagree with Chris Crawford’s evolutionary psychology article that was the cause of so much hoopla a little while back, and a couple of commentors there on Escapist appear to think Crawford’s article was the bees knees. I guess it’s just a difference in viewpoint.

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-615 Bonnie Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:21:50 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/12/games-of-a-fairer-sex/#comment-615 Thanks, Carl. And Patrick :-). Thanks, Carl. And Patrick :-).

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