Comments on: Making the Virtual Reality http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:12:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: freeplay online greyhound betting games http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-65505 freeplay online greyhound betting games Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:22:04 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-65505 <strong>freeplay online greyhound betting games...</strong> outperforms unnatural!thug Molochize ... freeplay online greyhound betting games…

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]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-594 Bonnie Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:32:38 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-594 Huh, thanks for the link, Ferrous, that's really interesting. I think the general conversation still stands as an interesting issue - since, after all, whether it's dating sims or any kind of cosplay we're constantly messing with the boundaries of fantasy and reality - but it seems Tim fell into some good, old-fashioned stereotyping (not in a hateful way, just in a cultural pressumptious way) about Japanese culture. Huh, thanks for the link, Ferrous, that’s really interesting. I think the general conversation still stands as an interesting issue - since, after all, whether it’s dating sims or any kind of cosplay we’re constantly messing with the boundaries of fantasy and reality - but it seems Tim fell into some good, old-fashioned stereotyping (not in a hateful way, just in a cultural pressumptious way) about Japanese culture.

]]> By: FerrousBuller http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-590 FerrousBuller Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:14:24 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-590 BTW, not to burst Tim's theory or anything, but I can find at least one person who argues that dating sims ain't <a href="http://www.quartertothree.com/inhouse/columns/180/" rel="nofollow">as hot as he claims</a> - not with the mainstream Japanese gamers, at any rate. Doesn't invalidate his argument or anything - just means it may not support it as strongly as he thinks. BTW, not to burst Tim’s theory or anything, but I can find at least one person who argues that dating sims ain’t as hot as he claims - not with the mainstream Japanese gamers, at any rate. Doesn’t invalidate his argument or anything - just means it may not support it as strongly as he thinks.

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-575 Bonnie Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:03:22 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-575 I hear you, MD^2. You're saying that the question of fantasy vs. realism is negated by the concept that game space and real life are innately distinctuated by their separate roles in the levels of existence. And I think, theoretically, that works. But at the same time a lot of the people who are playing and designing games are looking at it within this fantasy vs. realism model, and thus it still needs to be considered in understanding the meaningful consumption of games. (Also, "Bonnie" is fine; I don't know if I'm "Ms." material :-)). I hear you, MD^2. You’re saying that the question of fantasy vs. realism is negated by the concept that game space and real life are innately distinctuated by their separate roles in the levels of existence. And I think, theoretically, that works. But at the same time a lot of the people who are playing and designing games are looking at it within this fantasy vs. realism model, and thus it still needs to be considered in understanding the meaningful consumption of games. (Also, “Bonnie” is fine; I don’t know if I’m “Ms.” material :-)).

]]> By: MD² http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-574 MD² Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:41:16 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-574 I understood that, Ms Bonnie, and my answer was that the questions may be overlooking the fact that it may be the codes of life and the codes of fiction depends on the same market (=existence ?), and really are just specialisations of one and the same emission Going all around with a shotgun shooting people is not considered an accepted social behavior... except in games (in fiction), and you know it is not acceptable in life because it's the stuff of games as well as you know it's the the stuff of game because it's not acceptable/accepted in life. The code is meant to actualise the possibilty of gradations that defines the frame of our existence. Think in linguistic how words/structures define class by being in theory mutualy exclusive to every other iterations. I understood that, Ms Bonnie, and my answer was that the questions may be overlooking the fact that it may be the codes of life and the codes of fiction depends on the same market (=existence ?), and really are just specialisations of one and the same emission
Going all around with a shotgun shooting people is not considered an accepted social behavior… except in games (in fiction), and you know it is not acceptable in life because it’s the stuff of games as well as you know it’s the the stuff of game because it’s not acceptable/accepted in life.
The code is meant to actualise the possibilty of gradations that defines the frame of our existence.
Think in linguistic how words/structures define class by being in theory mutualy exclusive to every other iterations.

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-572 Bonnie Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:14:53 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-572 Porn addition... *I* want to know more about porn addiction... :-) Porn addition… *I* want to know more about porn addiction… :-)

]]> By: Citizen Chimp http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-571 Citizen Chimp Tue, 06 Dec 2005 05:11:03 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-571 Wow, I quoted David Wong on this blog too. Have we talked about porn addiction over here already? Wow, I quoted David Wong on this blog too. Have we talked about porn addiction over here already?

]]> By: FerrousBuller http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-570 FerrousBuller Tue, 06 Dec 2005 04:46:44 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-570 "essentially, are games meant to reflect real life, or are they meant to enable fantasies we wish we could act out in real life?" Yes. :-) I think David Wong said it best: someday, it'll be all about <a href="http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/wowworld.html" rel="nofollow">Awesome You</a>. “essentially, are games meant to reflect real life, or are they meant to enable fantasies we wish we could act out in real life?”

Yes. :-)

I think David Wong said it best: someday, it’ll be all about Awesome You.

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-569 Bonnie Tue, 06 Dec 2005 02:52:34 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-569 MD^2, it all goes back to a question qDot posed around here recently: essentially, are games meant to reflect real life, or are they meant to enable fantasies we wish we could act out in real life? MD^2, it all goes back to a question qDot posed around here recently: essentially, are games meant to reflect real life, or are they meant to enable fantasies we wish we could act out in real life?

]]> By: MD² http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-568 MD² Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:54:37 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/12/03/making-the-virtual-reality/#comment-568 Strange synchronicity with a text I wrote in my notebook this morning. I'll just (try to) translate the last paragraph: [When people adorn themselves in the strappings of virtual life, whether it's publicty, video-games, litterature, political or religious ritualism, whatever], it's not:"I want to look like this depiction of life" they're saying, but rather "I beg of you, I don't know what it means to be alive, please let me be part of the picture - may the picture become life". Sill need to read the latest edition of the Escapist, but life's been hectic recently. Strange synchronicity with a text I wrote in my notebook this morning.

I’ll just (try to) translate the last paragraph:

[When people adorn themselves in the strappings of virtual life, whether it’s publicty, video-games, litterature, political or religious ritualism, whatever], it’s not:”I want to look like this depiction of life” they’re saying, but rather “I beg of you, I don’t know what it means to be alive, please let me be part of the picture - may the picture become life”.

Sill need to read the latest edition of the Escapist, but life’s been hectic recently.

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