Comments on: Hey, This is Pretty Spiffy! http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/08/18/hey-this-is-pretty-spiffy/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:29:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Bonnie http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/08/18/hey-this-is-pretty-spiffy/#comment-28 Bonnie Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:49:56 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/08/18/hey-this-is-pretty-spiffy/#comment-28 Getting rid of juvenile behavior would definitely help the women's issue thing, but I really think it goes beyond that. Even if there were no more "jerks" that doesn't mean there wouldn't be discrimination in more subtle forms. Also, while it would make the whole affair less offensive, it wouldn't actually solve the problems at hand (the way men view women's roles in gaming), only cover it up with black tape. At the moment, even if it can be unsettling to go on Live, at least you get some real info about what guys think of us game girls. Getting rid of juvenile behavior would definitely help the women’s issue thing, but I really think it goes beyond that. Even if there were no more “jerks” that doesn’t mean there wouldn’t be discrimination in more subtle forms. Also, while it would make the whole affair less offensive, it wouldn’t actually solve the problems at hand (the way men view women’s roles in gaming), only cover it up with black tape. At the moment, even if it can be unsettling to go on Live, at least you get some real info about what guys think of us game girls.

]]> By: Kelly A http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/08/18/hey-this-is-pretty-spiffy/#comment-27 Kelly A Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:19:47 +0000 http://www.heroine-sheik.com/2005/08/18/hey-this-is-pretty-spiffy/#comment-27 I read through the comments- they generally share the tone of the original article's author. One sentiment repeated several times in the thread is one I have a hard time disagreeing with- the fact that there are and likely always will be a percentage of "jerks" who participate in online games. The anonymity of the Internet affects some people in a strange way. They say and do things for no other purpose than to be offensive. I guess I get offended pretty easily. I don't like "open" FPS games for that reason- I feel the "smack" talk some people think is a requirement is totally inappropriate. I like to play the game, learn from other players, and compete- I see no reason to throw insults around. The only way I was able to get rid of the "jerks" on my open game server was to make it not open- to password protect it. Personally, I'd be more inclined to say "let's get rid of the juvenile behavior and insults" than to narrow the focus to a purely women's issue. That said, treating female gamers better will probably result in improvement in how we treat everyone...maybe? I read through the comments- they generally share the tone of the original article’s author.

One sentiment repeated several times in the thread is one I have a hard time disagreeing with- the fact that there are and likely always will be a percentage of “jerks” who participate in online games. The anonymity of the Internet affects some people in a strange way. They say and do things for no other purpose than to be offensive.

I guess I get offended pretty easily. I don’t like “open” FPS games for that reason- I feel the “smack” talk some people think is a requirement is totally inappropriate. I like to play the game, learn from other players, and compete- I see no reason to throw insults around. The only way I was able to get rid of the “jerks” on my open game server was to make it not open- to password protect it.

Personally, I’d be more inclined to say “let’s get rid of the juvenile behavior and insults” than to narrow the focus to a purely women’s issue. That said, treating female gamers better will probably result in improvement in how we treat everyone…maybe?

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